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Connecting women at Gannett FlemingWomen often struggle to feel included in the engineering field. Gannett Fleming wants to change that.

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From left, Barbara McLemore, Judy Lynn Hricack and Ester M. McGinnis, the founders of Gannett Fleming's Connected Women group.
From left, Barbara McLemore, Judy Lynn Hricack and Ester M. McGinnis, the founders of Gannett Fleming's Connected Women group. - (Photo / )

The national percentage of women earning undergraduate degrees in the male-dominated engineering field is around 20 percent.

Penn State is no exception. It’s usually ranked in the top five nationally for engineering undergraduate degrees awarded. Of the school’s roughly 1,600 undergraduates in 2015, about 300 were women, according to figures from the American Society for Engineering Education.

Here’s another statistic. About one third of those women undergraduates enter the engineering workforce and then leave shortly after, or never even bother to enter it, a 2016 study by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology found. In the Penn State example, that would be 100 female undergraduates lost to the profession.

Low retention numbers do not bode well for an engineering firm’s potential growth. The lack of women leaders is “business critical,” as Gannett Fleming company officials describe it. Based in East Pennsboro Township, Cumberland County, Gannett Fleming is the largest private engineering firm in the midstate.

The engineering profession as a whole struggles with diversity, said Judy Lynn Hricak, vice president and chief marketing officer for Gannett Fleming. Twenty five percent of Gannett Fleming’s employees are women, with 14 percent of that figure, female engineers. It's in line, if not slightly above the national average.

“The engineering field isn’t where it needs to be, but that isn’t a reason to sit back,” Hricak said. “To be able to have the best solutions for our clients and to have the most creativity, you need a lot of diversity.”

"It's a people factor"

Gender-diverse companies are 15 percent more likely to enjoy financial returns above the national medians for their industries, noted a study by McKinsey & Company, a global management consulting firm. Those returns climb to 35 percent for firms that also are ethnically diverse.

“There are studies that cite that companies with more women in senior level positions will be more profitable,” Hricak said. “When you put women around the table we solve things differently. We make decisions in a different way.”

But a lack of connection with their peers and a masculine workplace culture factor into why women choose to leave the engineering field.

“They get into the workplace and they feel isolated,” Esther McGinnis, executive vice president and director of Gannett Fleming’s Mid-Atlantic region. “They don’t feel they are connecting with their male counterparts and vice versa. It’s a two-way street. It’s both ways.”

A co-author of the MIT study wrote in the Harvard Business Review that “female students do as well or better than male students in school — but often point to the hegemonic masculine culture of engineering itself as a reason for leaving.”

“Engineering is tough,” said Barbara McLemore, vice president and general counsel for Gannett Fleming. She has been with the company for 35 years. “You have tough clients and tough problems.”

“It is,” McGinnis agreed. But, she added, “Usually it’s a people factor, not the technical one, and they jump ship.”

"The world is not bright roses"

In an effort to stem the female exodus and help women grow professionally within Gannett Fleming, the engineering firm this summer launched a “Connected Women at Gannett Fleming” initiative as an internal support network for employees.

Part of initiative’s goal is make women employees immediately feel welcome at work, whether they are located at Gannett Fleming’s corporate headquarters in Cumberland County, or its other 65 offices worldwide. They will host book clubs, educational programs and web-based livestreams on topics that interest the employees.

McGinnis, McLemore and Hricak are Connected Women’s co-founders.

AT A GLANCE

Connected Women at Gannett Fleming is an employee resource group. It wants to create a culture that empowers, supports and mentors women.
Part of its goal is make women employees immediately feel welcome at work. Recruiting and retaining people from diverse backgrounds is a part of that in-house structure.
The clients demand it, said Judy Lynn Hricak, vice president and chief marketing officer for Gannett Fleming.
“It’s not all white men with our clients,” she said. “They are diverse, too, and they want to see the diversity in the firms that they are working with.”
The initiative is a location-based model, with ambassadors at each of Gannett Fleming’s 65 offices around the world.
Examples of group activities include conducting live-stream events, watching TED talks and starting up book clubs.
“The group’s interest will depend on the location, what will be impactful for them,” Hricak said.

“We are planning to have another company-wide livestream event this winter,” Hricak said. “We put out a survey to those who participated in our summer livestream, and over 90 percent ranked it ‘excellent’ or ‘good.’ So we’ve got our work cut out for us.”

Connected Women is not a panacea to all workplace woes, but it gets the conversation moving.

“(Engineering) is a very different environment compared to working in school,” McGinnis said. “There’s a different dynamic there.”

Employees need camaraderie to stay engaged, she said. But McGinnis is quick to point out that you can’t blame the lack of inclusion entirely on the business culture. Real change also must come from the personal decisions made by women engineers.

“You are going to run into challenges in the workplace, difficult situations ... difficult people,” she said “You are going to have certain people that have an opinion on what diversity inclusion is. Some are on point, some are not.

“Some females are prepared to embrace those challenges ... and some are not. Statistics show that. The world is not bright roses. Embrace it, because that’s how you learn. That’s how you gain strength.”

Connected Women’s goals are to build a supportive community, see more women in leadership positions, and facilitate the mentorship of female employees, Hricak said. A diversity and inclusion steering committee is working with Jennifer Brown Consulting to help the company collect data about diversity-related topics.

“(Jennifer Brown has) hosted focus groups and one-on-one interviews, and are in the process of distributing an anonymous employee survey” Hricak said “This assessment will lead to a three-year diversity and inclusion strategic plan, part of which will inform our Connected Women efforts and help shape our specific goals.”

Outside of Gannett Fleming, company officials hope the initiative reaches prospective employees and improves recruiting.

“I want women to say ‘I want to come and work for Gannett Fleming,’” Hricak said. “The culture of our work environment is critical to recruitment and retention.”

Clients also want to hire firms with a diverse workforce. McGinnis works on the business development side of the company, and sits on the company board. She hears what clients want.

“The face of our client is changing,” McGinnis said. “Many of them, because of the close relationships that we have with them, are very pointed: They are looking for people at the table who look like them.”

Esther M. McGinnis is executive vice president, director of the Mid-Atlantic Region and member of Gannett Fleming’s board of directors
McGinnis directs the planning design and management of highway, bridge, municipal, geotechnical and environmental projects.
“I was always interested in building. I love vehicles, fast cars,” she said. “I always knew that I would be in a career involving building or designing or engineering. I’ve been fortunate enough to have excellent teachers.”
Esther M. McGinnis is executive vice president, director of the Mid-Atlantic Region and member of Gannett Fleming’s board of directors McGinnis directs the planning design and management of highway, bridge, municipal, geotechnical and environmental projects. “I was always interested in building. I love vehicles, fast cars,” she said. “I always knew that I would be in a career involving building or designing or engineering. I’ve been fortunate enough to have excellent teachers.” - (Photo / )
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Esther M. McGinnis is executive vice president, director of the Mid-Atlantic Region and member of Gannett Fleming’s board of directors McGinnis directs the planning design and management of highway, bridge, municipal, geotechnical and environmental projects. “I was always interested in building. I love vehicles, fast cars,” she said. “I always knew that I would be in a career involving building or designing or engineering. I’ve been fortunate enough to have excellent teachers.” - (Photo / Amy Spangler) Barbara R. McLemore, vice president and general counsel, is responsible for all general corporate legal matters. She specializes in engineering, architecture and constructions issues. In college, McLemore wrote a paper on the women’s movement. It got her thinking, she said: “You know, women can do a lot of things and I think I want to go law school.” At Dickinson School of Law she was one of only 10 or 15 women in the entire class. She started at Gannett Fleming in 1980. “Engineers are a really, really good clients,” she said. “They are ethical. They are logical. They try to do what is right for the client.” - (Photo / Amy Spangler) Judy Lynn Hricak, vice president and chief marketing officer, is the first employee to hold the title of CMO. She aligns the firm's vision and strategic growth goals with its marketing and business development initiatives. She's been with Gannett Fleming for 27 years. “I've always found so much opportunity here,” she said, noting it was difficult at first to convince the engineers to share their experiences. “The engineering profession generally doesn't like to talk about itself that much and when I saw all the amazing things we were doing here, I felt that there were stories that need to be told,” she said. “They've come a long way.” - (Photo / Amy Spangler)

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Cathy Hirko is managing editor, news, for the Central Penn Business Journal. Email her at chirko@cpbj.com. Follow her on Twitter, @CathyHirko.

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Todd November 18, 2017 9:35 pm

I think it's really cool with Gannett Fleming is pushing. My wife was an engineering major, but she never really got to use her degree as we started Atlanta Tree Removal Company almost 20 years ago, and it took off like a rocket.

Ericka Lane November 5, 2017 10:52 am

As a female engineering student, less than a year away from graduation at the UNLV in Las Vegas, I find these initiatives to be very inspiring and "I want to come work for Gannet Flemming ". Thank you so much for paving the way for people like me in the future.

Sophia Doakley November 3, 2017 5:36 pm

I was working in the engineering environment for 13 years - the way things were then did not deter me from the working in the industry (mostly because you couldn't really imagine things being different), but the way things are changing is very inspiring, and I hope the growing appreciation for female talent will be even more encouraging for women in the future. Way to go!

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